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Dreams of Difference, Songs of the Same

Amy Herzog

From jukebox films, Carmen, and Jacques Demy to Esther Williams, Tsai Ming-liang, and Mulholland Drive

A musical interruption is not liberating by itself. The real question is whether another iteration of the same song or genre formula reorganizes bodies, spaces, histories, and power.

English · University of Minnesota Press · 2010 · ISBN 9780816660889

UNITS
6
LOCATORS
38
CURATED BOOK CASES
9
EXTENSIONS
5
Dreams of Difference, Songs of the Same by Amy Herzog, 2010 edition cover
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01

CENTRAL ARGUMENT

Central argument and scope

CONTRIBUTION

Herzog rewrites musical-film studies through difference, repetition, and refrain. She treats neither genre formula as pure domination nor spectacular excess as automatic resistance, tracing instead how difference emerges from within cliché across jukebox shorts, Carmen adaptations, Demy, and aquatic spectacle.

PAGINATION

The numbered sequence runs pp.1–236; the publisher catalogues 296 pages.

SCOPE

Six reading units, 38 narrow print locators, 18 concept groups, eight relation cards, fourteen core or extended film cases, four outward perspectives, and a five-step route.

02

CHAPTER ARGUMENT CHAINS

6 reading units with exact print locators

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pp. 1–38 · Introduction

The contradictory structure of the musical moment

Repetition sustains genre and can also make it stutter; difference must be identified through the effects of a concrete repetition.

The introduction removes musical interruption from the romance of escape from narrative and returns it to history and media. Recorded sound, performing bodies, genre memory, and viewing technologies jointly make the musical moment.

pp. 1–12

The skip and the traitorous by-product

A skipping record makes repetition perceptible; commodity culture can also generate temporal fissures it does not fully control.

pp. 18–29

Difference and rhythm

Difference occurs within repetition, while pulsed and nonpulsed time distinguish mechanisms of interruption.

pp. 37–38

No hay banda

Club Silencio separates recorded voice, performing body, and spectator affect, making liveness a problem.

EXACT PRINT LOCATORS

  1. p. 1

    A skipping record exposes repetition as a temporal fault rather than transparent reproduction.

  2. pp. 5–6

    The corpus exceeds the conventional musical; noise, fissure, and excess are candidate sites of difference.

  3. pp. 11–12

    The Hole shows popular music as both a commodity product and a possible traitorous by-product.

  4. pp. 18–19

    Difference is not added from outside the same; it is generated through repetition.

  5. pp. 28–29

    Pulsed and nonpulsed time describe musical passages more precisely than saying narrative stops.

  6. pp. 37–38

    Mulholland Drive separates recorded voice, performing body, and weeping spectators from any natural audiovisual unity.

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pp. 39–72 · Illustrating Music: The Impossible Embodiments of the Jukebox Film

Jukebox film: impossible bodies

Recording, performance, and exhibition can never fully coincide; that noncoincidence can expose the medium and can also be consumed as spectacle.

Soundies and Scopitones compress performing bodies into machine formats. Herzog tracks how technology, viewing distance, adult markets, and racialized performance jointly produce embodiment.

pp. 39–43

Audiovisual contract

Audiovisual relations are not given in advance; apparatus and spectatorship organize them provisionally.

pp. 49–58

Cliché begins to stutter

Genre habits sustain recognition yet stutter through recording, editing, and bodily excess.

pp. 64–71

Spectators beside the machine

Market positioning and viewing location make the impossible body a concrete institutional relation.

EXACT PRINT LOCATORS

  1. pp. 39–40

    Chion's audiovisual hierarchy provides a starting point for asking what governs what.

  2. pp. 42–43

    Audiovisual technology produces social and spatiotemporal relations rather than neutrally containing them.

  3. pp. 49–50

    Habit, cliché, and phantasm explain how formulas stabilize and can also stutter.

  4. pp. 57–58

    The Soundie's systemic stutter produces excess among body, recording, and exhibition site.

  5. pp. 64–65

    The Scopitone's adult market connects colour spectacle to an economy of desire.

  6. pp. 70–71

    Machine placement, bodily proximity, and sonic intimacy place the individual viewer within a presence that cannot be fully realized.

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pp. 73–114 · Dissonant Refrains: Carmen on Film

Carmen: dissonant refrains

Adaptation is not a derivative copy but a reconfiguration of the refrain across racial, gendered, classed, and medial territories.

The repeated Carmen material makes difference comparable: which rhythms release bodies, and which vocal substitutions or performance codes fix them again.

pp. 73–82

Adaptation as territory

The refrain establishes, loosens, and recomposes the territory of a familiar story.

pp. 88–101

Substituting voices and bodies

Godard and Hammerstein make politics, race, and vocal ownership conflict.

pp. 108–114

Rhythmic release or recoding

Difference can only be extracted from concrete performance, editing, and historical position.

EXACT PRINT LOCATORS

  1. pp. 73–74

    The adaptation series turns the same story into a laboratory for comparing difference.

  2. pp. 81–82

    The refrain delimits territory while carrying risks of deterritorialization and reterritorialization.

  3. pp. 88–89

    First Name: Carmen makes musical, gendered, and political refrains interrupt one another.

  4. pp. 93–94

    Carmen Jones exposes revision and racialized refixation at once.

  5. pp. 100–101

    Substitution between voice and body makes who sings a question of power.

  6. pp. 108–109

    Rhythmic release must be analysed together with its racial coding.

  7. pp. 113–114

    Difference does not leave the refrain; it is extracted from within it.

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pp. 115–153 · En Chanté: Music, Memory, and Perversity in the Films of Jacques Demy

Demy: music, memory, and surface

Demy's coloured surfaces are not the opposite of historical depth; they let war, desire, and civilizational prohibition persist through musical return.

Bergsonian memory, Demy's urban surfaces, and uncomfortable fables jointly oppose a simple divide between pretty surfaces and serious depth.

pp. 115–123

Body as memory circuit

Perception, memory, and action connect through the body's zone of indetermination.

pp. 130–138

Violence on the surface

Bright colour and decoration carry urban, wartime, and familial prohibitions.

pp. 145–153

Deviating from habit

Degrees of repetition and artistic deviation make music reciprocal transformation rather than nostalgic return.

EXACT PRINT LOCATORS

  1. pp. 115–116

    The perception-memory relation connects musical return to time, not nostalgia alone.

  2. pp. 122–123

    The body is a zone of indetermination for action and an exchange point for history and sensation.

  3. pp. 130–131

    The Young Girls of Rochefort's coloured surfaces cannot be separated from urban violence and absent war.

  4. pp. 137–138

    Donkey Skin's decoration and incest fable make surface carry discomfort.

  5. pp. 145–146

    Superficial and deep repetition are generative mechanisms, not a decoration-truth binary.

  6. pp. 152–153

    Music makes differentiated elements resonate, bringing body, memory, space, and multiple temporal layers into reciprocal transformation.

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pp. 154–201 · Becoming-Fluid: History, Corporeality, and the Musical Spectacle

Fluid bodies: spectacle, history, and contamination

Water and movement can loosen figure-ground boundaries while carrying commodification, illness, and historical violence; fluidity is not pure escape.

Esther Williams and Tsai Ming-liang enter one comparative field without being flattened into the same style. Mass ornament, star body, epidemic, and urban housing exert different historical pressures.

pp. 154–167

Choreography and dream

Mass bodies are abstracted into patterns while dream-images return history nonchronologically.

pp. 175–182

Star surface and liquid perception

Water changes body, environment, and camera centre while intensifying commodity visibility.

pp. 189–200

Contagious musical

Illness, residential isolation, and song produce a field of contamination and connection.

EXACT PRINT LOCATORS

  1. pp. 154–155

    The mass ornament links choreography to bodily abstraction and capitalist organization.

  2. pp. 159–160

    The waters of Esther Williams and Tsai Ming-liang form a transhistorical comparative field.

  3. pp. 166–167

    The dream-image returns history nonchronologically, but dream alone is not automatically a time-image.

  4. pp. 175–176

    Commodity and star body circulate through surface without reducing the body to a consumer sign.

  5. pp. 181–182

    Liquid perception alters stable boundaries among figure, environment, and camera.

  6. pp. 189–190

    The Hole's Taiwan Fever overlays epidemic, housing, musical performance, and communal desire.

  7. pp. 199–200

    Popular music carries commodity culture's formulas and identity markings yet also produces excesses and differences not wholly faithful to their origin.

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pp. 202–206 · Conclusion

Do not treat interruption as the answer

The minimum evidence for difference is relational transformation, not a mere increase in volume, colour, speed, or spectacle.

The conclusion rejects linear genre history and a preset direction of liberation, returning comparison to contradictory tendencies within concrete works.

pp. 202–203

Conflicting tendencies

One form can stabilize and disturb simultaneously; marginal works often expose that conflict more clearly.

pp. 204–205

Separate political variables

Subject, object, body, history, and everyday time must be recorded separately.

p. 206

Refrain without telos

The refrain works through relational change and leads to no guaranteed endpoint.

EXACT PRINT LOCATORS

  1. p. 202

    Musical form contains conflicting tendencies toward stabilization and disturbance.

  2. p. 203

    Marginal and hybrid works more readily expose how interruption works.

  3. p. 204

    Subject, object, body, and politics cannot be collapsed into the single word excess.

  4. p. 205

    Everyday time out of joint makes repetition newly perceptible.

  5. p. 206

    The refrain works through relational transformation, not progress toward a preset liberation.

  6. pp. 202–203

    The book's cases demand historically situated comparison rather than a single genre history.

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WORKING CONCEPTS

18 searchable, operational concepts

01 · pp. 1–38musical moment

Musical moment

A local event in which music or sound recomposes narrative, spatial, or bodily relations.

OPERATION
Record what changes at entry, duration, and exit.
BOUNDARY
Not every song passage, and not automatically liberating.
02 · pp. 1, 18–19repetition / répétition

Repetition

The condition through which difference is actually produced.

OPERATION
Compare relational changes each time the same material returns.
BOUNDARY
Not mechanical copying or a count of occurrences.
03 · pp. 18–19, 202–206difference / différence

Difference

A transformation of relations within repetition.

OPERATION
Demonstrate it through observable changes in body, space, history, and power.
BOUNDARY
Not mere novelty or stronger style.
05 · pp. 49–50cliché

Cliché

An inherited shortcut linking perception to action.

OPERATION
Check whether the path of action actually changes after interruption.
BOUNDARY
Familiarity does not mean ineffectiveness.
06 · pp. 154–182musical spectacle

Musical spectacle

A field of viewing jointly made by choreography, colour, camera, body, and commodity form.

OPERATION
Record aesthetic force and production or market relations together.
BOUNDARY
Not inherently opposed to narrative or politics.
07 · pp. 39–72impossible embodiment

Impossible embodiment

The failure of recorded voice, performing body, and exhibition machine to coincide fully.

OPERATION
Annotate sound source, visible body, and viewing site separately.
BOUNDARY
Not bodily absence but a relation among multiple bodies.
08 · pp. 39–43audiovisual contract

Audiovisual contract

The spectator's provisional organization of sound and image into a whole.

OPERATION
Test how the whole changes through dubbing, muting, or offscreen sound.
BOUNDARY
Not natural synchronization.
09 · pp. 28–29pulsed time

Pulsed time

Time organized by beat, gesture, or measure.

OPERATION
Mark whether beat aligns with editing and bodily movement.
BOUNDARY
Not identical to clock time.
10 · pp. 28–29nonpulsed time

Nonpulsed time

Duration and variation loosened from fixed measure.

OPERATION
Observe where the passage leaves countable beats.
BOUNDARY
Not rhythmlessness or arbitrary slow motion.
11 · pp. 81–82deterritorialization

Deterritorialization

The loosening of an established rhythmic-spatial relation.

OPERATION
Specify the boundary being loosened.
BOUNDARY
Loosening does not guarantee escape from refixation.
12 · pp. 81–82reterritorialization

Reterritorialization

The reorganization of loosened forces into a new order.

OPERATION
Track institution, identity, and action after the song ends.
BOUNDARY
It need not restore the old and may intensify control.
13 · pp. 130–146surface

Surface

The material interface where colour, costume, set, skin, and medium act.

OPERATION
Analyse how surfaces transmit history and prohibition.
BOUNDARY
Not a synonym for false appearance.
14 · pp. 137–153perversity

Perversity

An aesthetic deviation from civilizational habit in the Demy case.

OPERATION
Specify how it changes habitual paths of viewing or desire.
BOUNDARY
Not a clinical or identity label applied to a film.
15 · pp. 159–182liquid perception

Liquid perception

Audiovisual organization in which boundaries between figure and milieu change through a fluid medium.

OPERATION
Record centre of movement, medium, and camera position.
BOUNDARY
The mere presence of water does not constitute liquid perception.
16 · pp. 154–155mass ornament

Mass ornament

A modern form in which bodies are mass-arranged into exchangeable patterns.

OPERATION
Observe geometry, labour, and individual visibility together.
BOUNDARY
Not every ensemble dance.
17 · pp. 189–200contamination

Contamination

An ambivalent process through which bodies, histories, commodities, and media enter one another.

OPERATION
Record transmission path, affected bodies, and new connections.
BOUNDARY
Neither pure danger nor pure community.
18 · pp. 202–205time out of joint

Time out of joint

A dislocation of everyday order that makes another relation perceptible.

OPERATION
Specify how time organizes action before and after dislocation.
BOUNDARY
Not every flashback, dream, or nonlinear narrative.
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PRIMARY TEXTS AND COMPARATIVE STUDIES

Related arguments and textual comparisons

01
pp. 1, 18–19

How repetition produces difference

BOOK ARGUMENT
Repetition in the musical sustains recognizability and can also make habit stutter.
RELATED PRIMARY ENTRY
Difference and Repetition provides an entry to difference immanent to repetition; Herzog's film argument is not presented as wording from the primary text.
CROSS-TEXT COMPARISON
Comparison with genre formula and remake studies distinguishes semantic variation from relational transformation.
SITE TEST
List changes in body, space, history, and power before and after repetition; claim no difference without change.
02
pp. 81–82, 113–114

The refrain's three movements

BOOK ARGUMENT
The Carmen refrain establishes, loosens, and recomposes territories across adaptations.
RELATED PRIMARY ENTRY
A Thousand Plateaus provides the territorial entry for the refrain.
CROSS-TEXT COMPARISON
Musicological motif stresses recognizable material; the Deleuze-Guattari route stresses how material organizes space and action.
SITE TEST
Mark territory, loosening mechanism, and new fixation in sequence; without all three, call it repeated melody only.
03
pp. 37–43, 100–101

Which body owns the voice

BOOK ARGUMENT
Prerecording, vocal substitution, and exhibition keep vocal ownership unstable.
RELATED PRIMARY ENTRY
Cinema 2's audiovisual fracture offers a related entry, while Herzog's jukebox history has its own media genealogy.
CROSS-TEXT COMPARISON
Chion's audiovisual contract and star or dubbing studies add institutional and labour dimensions.
SITE TEST
Record audible source, visible performer, credited subject, and affected spectator separately.
04
pp. 49–50

Does cliché fail

BOOK ARGUMENT
Genre formula can expose its habitual structure through medial excess.
RELATED PRIMARY ENTRY
The crisis of cliché and the sensory-motor schema in the Cinema books provides an entry.
CROSS-TEXT COMPARISON
Genre studies explains how industry, market, and audience expectation sustain formula.
SITE TEST
If action, role allocation, and viewing position remain unchanged after interruption, cliché is still operating.
05
pp. 115–123

Musical return is not nostalgia

BOOK ARGUMENT
Demy's musical returns connect perception, memory, and history through the body.
RELATED PRIMARY ENTRY
Matter and Memory provides a related primary entry to perception, recollection, and action.
CROSS-TEXT COMPARISON
Nostalgia studies emphasizes the lost object; the book also asks how surfaces continue to act in the present.
SITE TEST
Distinguish the recalled past, its material trigger, and its alteration of present action.
06
pp. 130–153

How surface carries history

BOOK ARGUMENT
Colour, set, and costume do not flee war and prohibition but form interfaces through which they continue to act.
RELATED PRIMARY ENTRY
Deleuze's surface, event, and critique of depth provide a cross-textual entry.
CROSS-TEXT COMPARISON
Camp, decoration, and melodrama studies add histories of taste, gender, and spectatorship.
SITE TEST
Describe relations materially transmitted across the surface without automatically translating colour into psychological symbol.
07
pp. 159–200

Fluidity as escape or exposure

BOOK ARGUMENT
Water can loosen figure-ground boundaries and also circulate commodity, disease, and historical pressure.
RELATED PRIMARY ENTRY
Cinema 1's liquid perception provides a classificatory entry.
CROSS-TEXT COMPARISON
Ecological media, infrastructure, and contagion studies make water's material politics more concrete.
SITE TEST
Mark centre of movement, fluid medium, benefiting bodies, harmed bodies, and governing apparatus.
08
pp. 175–200

Surplus within commodification

BOOK ARGUMENT
Popular music depends on commodity circulation yet can produce a surplus not exhausted by its present use.
RELATED PRIMARY ENTRY
Deleuze and Guattari's analyses of desiring-production and capitalism provide related entries.
CROSS-TEXT COMPARISON
Platformized music studies extends record and cinema into recommendation, rights, and data.
SITE TEST
Track whether excess leaves a reusable relation or is immediately recaptured by the same exchange logic.
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FILMS AND IMAGES

Book cases and extended analyses

The singer lies on the Club Silencio stage while the song continues in Mulholland Drive
Club Silencio: voice, body, and playback separate. Watch scene ↗
01 · BOOK CASE · pp. 37–38

Mulholland Drive

Mulholland Drive · David Lynch · 2001

Club Silencio separates voice, performing body, mechanical playback, and spectator affect.

02 · BOOK CASE · pp. 39–63

Soundies jukebox shorts

1940s

Machine format, recording, and performing body compose impossible embodiment.

03 · BOOK CASE · pp. 64–71

Scopitone colour shorts

1960s

The adult market binds colour, sexual display, and jukebox economy.

04 · BOOK CASE · pp. 88–92

First Name: Carmen

Prénom Carmen · Jean-Luc Godard · 1983

The classical refrain interferes with modern politics, bodily violence, and audiovisual conflict.

05 · BOOK CASE · pp. 93–109

Carmen Jones

Otto Preminger · 1954

All-Black casting, dubbing, and Broadway adaptation revise and refix Carmen simultaneously.

06 · BOOK CASE · pp. 127–136

The Young Girls of Rochefort

Les Demoiselles de Rochefort · Jacques Demy · 1967

Bright urban surfaces remain adjacent to war, violence, and missed connection.

07 · BOOK CASE · pp. 137–153

Donkey Skin

Peau d’âne · Jacques Demy · 1970

Fairy-tale decoration, prohibited desire, and musical deviation make surface an interface of conflict.

08 · BOOK CASE · pp. 11–12, 189–200

The Hole

洞 · Tsai Ming-liang · 1998

Epidemic housing, leakage, and musical numbers overlay isolation with a desire for community.

09 · BOOK CASE · pp. 159–201

The Wayward Cloud

天邊一朵雲 · Tsai Ming-liang · 2005

Drought, pornography production, and musical spectacle sharpen the politics of fluidity.

10 · SITE EXTENSION

Singin’ in the Rain

Gene Kelly & Stanley Donen · 1952

Connects dubbing, star bodies, and media transition to impossible embodiment.

11 · SITE EXTENSION

An American in Paris

Vincente Minnelli · 1951

The final ballet expands the musical moment into a total recomposition of space and painterly style.

12 · SITE EXTENSION

Annette

Leos Carax · 2021

Puppet body, live performance, media exposure, and song extend audiovisual ownership into platform celebrity.

13 · SITE EXTENSION

Joyland

Saim Sadiq · 2022

Stage music, trans performance, and family territory make the refrain's political boundaries visible.

14 · SITE EXTENSION

The Ballroom

Le Bal · Ettore Scola · 1983

One ballroom and repeated dances let history accumulate through music, gesture, and costume.

06

OUTWARD PERSPECTIVES

Further questions and research directions

01

Platform music and recommender refrains

QUESTION
How does repetition change when a chorus becomes a fifteen-second loop distributed by recommendation systems?
EXTENSION
Extend the jukebox's machine placement into interface, metrics, rights, and recommender feedback.
TENSION
Herzog studies twentieth-century cinema and jukeboxes; algorithmic distribution is a later site comparison, not her prediction.
TEST
Record clipping, looping, recommendation, creator revenue, and reuse across five layers.
02

Racialized voice and dubbing labour

QUESTION
Whose body is visible, whose voice is heard, and who is credited?
EXTENSION
Connect Carmen and jukebox cases to Black female spectatorship, dubbing history, and musical labour.
TENSION
Rhythmic contagion does not erase racialized production relations.
TEST
Record performer, singer, character, rightsholder, and spectator position in separate columns.
03

Queer and trans musical bodies

QUESTION
How does the musical moment open identity rehearsal and how is it refixed by genre or family?
EXTENSION
Use Joyland and Annette to test performing bodies, vocal ownership, and kinship structures.
TENSION
Perversity is Herzog's aesthetic analysis of Demy and cannot be equated directly with contemporary identity categories.
TEST
Separate screen representation, production labour, character agency, and material spectator conditions.
04

Fluidity, climate, and infrastructure

QUESTION
Is water in the musical a visual metaphor, or matter distributed through pipes, housing, drought, and labour?
EXTENSION
Extend the Williams/Tsai comparison into water infrastructure and climate inequality.
TENSION
Liquid perception describes image relations and cannot replace material analysis of water and housing systems.
TEST
Record source, flow, controller, cost, affected body, and camera centre shot by shot.
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READING ROUTE

Chapter sequence and reading questions

  1. 01
    pp. 1–38

    Suspend automatic liberation

    List action, space, body, and audiovisual ownership before and after musical interruption.

  2. 02
    pp. 39–72

    Separate machine and body

    Annotate source, performer, machine, site, and spectator in one Soundie or Scopitone.

  3. 03
    pp. 73–114

    Compare Carmens

    Compare the same musical material across two versions for vocal ownership, racial coding, action, and ending.

  4. 04
    pp. 115–201

    Surface and fluidity

    Choose one Demy and one Tsai passage; record how surface carries history and water recomposes boundaries.

  5. 05
    pp. 202–206

    Conclude through relation

    Remove abstract praise and write only visible, audible, sustainable relational changes.

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EDITIONS, SOURCES, AND RIGHTS

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EDITION RECORD

University of Minnesota Press ↗

Amy Herzog, Dreams of Difference, Songs of the Same, 2009/2010, PB 9780816660889.

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ACCESS / ACQUISITION

JSTOR institutional edition ↗

Stable record 10.5749/j.ctttsf3n; eISBN 9780816670581.

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RELATED PRIMARY TEXT

Difference and Repetition ↗

Related primary entry for difference immanent to repetition.

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RELATED PRIMARY TEXT

A Thousand Plateaus ↗

Related primary entry for refrain, territorialization, and deterritorialization.

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